1,591 Comments for Glenn Dale Hospital

Eddie, I agree it's not an instant thing, but the problem (from what I can tell) isn't from a single exposure, it's from repeated exposures over time. I know Motts wears masks sometimes when he's in these places, and they look creepy as hell! See: http://www.opacity.us/...33.htm#comment_18281 for more...
On the other hand, people do really stupid things, so I could see someone disturbing the asbestos into the air and inhaling it for long periods of time...

Also adding onto to Maypost asbestos will not instantly create cancer. In fact it takes many hours of breathing it in straight. To breathe it in straight you need to disturb it into the air which I find would be very stupid. So don't be scared to die just..cautious

that is really haunted i have been in there 1 time and that all i need

it does look like a model of a mountainous country. also it looks the lamp is a FLYING SUACER!! AHHHH run away!

Now, Crownsville Hospital, they def. used electroshock therapy and all sorts of experiments having to do with the brain. and you know shyt went down there b/c they didnt know what worked in the early 1900's.

I would def. like to get ppl together that know what theyre doing, citronelladaze@hotmail.com, contact me, i live near crownsville mental hospital as well.

No need to flame people, please.

I give up with you folks. You're bound and determined to imagine what you like about what went on at Glenn Dale. And I'll admit, gastric washing involves snaking a tube through the nose into the stomach (I recall it being a very long black rubber tube). But please do your research and contact people who lived and worked there. I know it;s harder than using your imaginations but give it a shot. You'll find that no one was zapping anyone's brain--there was no ward for the mentally ill-- and that mouth gags were used in the treatment of TB.

Gee, who said Glenn Dale was a mental health facility? Do your research.

I think the problem is that a lot of people don't realize what desperation feels like... I read about someone who was partially paralyzed, and underwent "bee sting" therapy to regain some mobility. She swore it worked... If I was in a situation like the seizures, and nothing else had worked, but then I heard about a new technique that MIGHT work, I'd try it, no matter how painful... That hope is what keeps a lot of people alive!

You may need to be registered at MedScape to see the following articles. If so, let me know and I can e-mail them. I took out a few lines from each study I pulled up. Doesn't mean I agree or disagree with these articles - they are just the first research articles I pulled up. The research seems to suggest that ECT is useful for people with intractable depression when everything else has failed, and less helpful for schizophrenia unless it is actually a schizoaffective disorder:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/450436
"Electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) is more effective than medications for the treatment of depression, according to the results of a meta-analysis published in the March 8 issue of The Lancet. Bilateral ECT was better than unilateral ECT, and high-dose was better than low dose."

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/523771
"ECT can restore quality of life to people devastated by severe depression. Study leader W. Vaughn McCall, MD, leads the department of psychiatry and behavioral medicine at Wake Forest University School of Medicine."

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/524769
"Electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) is associated with improved health-related quality of life (HRQOL), primarily from improvements in depression symptoms, which lasts for at least 6 months, results of a new study suggest."

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/485024
"The evidence in this review suggests that ECT, combined with treatment with antipsychotic drugs, may be considered an option for people with schizophrenia, particularly when rapid global improvement and reduction of symptoms is desired. This is also the case for those with schizophrenia who show limited response to medication alone. Even though this initial beneficial effect may not last beyond the short term, there is no clear evidence to refute its use for people with schizophrenia. The research base for the use of ECT in people with schizophrenia continues to expand, but even after more than five decades of clinical use, there remain many unanswered questions regarding its role in the management of people with schizophrenia."

http://www.medscape.co...087991?queryText=ect
"Data analyzed suggest that ECT is a valid therapeutic tool for treatment of depression, including severe and resistant forms."

What is the status of ECT today? About a year and 1/2 ago I was listening to NPR and they were interviewing someone who was receiving ECT not for psychiatric treatment but as a short term solution for epilepsy. The person in question was experiencing seizures multiple times per week. Subsequent to ECT they were seizure free for months at a time, when seizures eventually reoccured they repeated treatment. Before anyone's imagination runs away with them the patient was receiving ECT voluntarily and was not an inhouse patient of the facility. The downside was that the treatment eventually ceased to be effective for some of the patients.

I am working from memory here so some of the details may not be exact. I think that the treatment was in limited usage back at the time of this article. Has the use of ECT gained momentum again? Do the doctors know why it has a temporary curative effect? Is it being used for other conditions?

Stephan,

Mouth gags were used for a variety of procedures, including ECT. Whether it was ever done at this particular facility is not known. In truth it would be unusual for almost any hospital in this country to not have administered ECT during the time period that this facility was open, as it was a widespread procedure across the United States.

As far as references for mouth gags being used for ECT, here are several:

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40000618/
Anaesthetic - usual precautions, atropine not usually recommended methohexitone, a short-barbiturate, is best induction agent but not always obtainable. Propofol, etomidate or thiopentone or alternatives. Propofol widely used but can reduce seizure length, cause delay to convulsions or recovery or anaphylaxis. Immediately add muscle relaxant, check lungs are well oxygenated and insert mouth gag.

http://medical.med.tok...t/v47_n3-4_p123.html
Treatments were commonly given at about ten o'clock in the morning, usually three times a week. Patients had nothing to eat or drink in the morning before each treatment. Trans-pi-oxocamphor and dimorpholamine were administered by intramuscular injection. The electrode sites were carefully cleaned with alcohol swabs and then dried. The patients were given a short-acting barbiturate (thiamylal sodium) intravenously to induce light sleep. When the patients were asleep, assistants restrained their shoulders, arms and thighs to prevent extreme motion. A padded tongue depressor or other resilient mouth gag was placed between the teeth to prevent biting the tongue or other injury, and then a sine-wave electrical stimulus was given. Pulse and blood pressure were checked before and after the procedure. All patients received bilateral ECT with electrodes placed in the bifrontotemporal position. The ECT apparatus was a C-1 type electric convulsive device made by Sakai Medical Company.

http://www.moh.gov.om/...ELECTRO-CONVULSIVE%20THERAPY.pdf
EQUIPMENT
1. Patient's couch with side railings and adjustment to raise and lower.
2. Anaesthesia apparatus with endotracheal tubings and laryngoscope.
3. ECT machine with bilateral electrodes.
4. Electrolyte solution.
5. Emergency trolley with emergency drugs.
6. I.V. fluids and I. V. stand
7. Anaesthesia injection. [Sodium Pentothal, muscle relaxant, Injection Atropine, water for injection).
8. Gallipots for gauze swabs, spirit swabs.
9. Adhesive mouth gag and disposable bag.
10. Suction apparatus.
11. Oxygen cylinder with flow meter.
12. ECG machine with pulse monitor.

mouth gag + rubber tube= gastric washing.

Believe what you wish. If you choose to believe that "mouth gags" were used during ECT, go right ahead.