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And whoever would be standing there doing the kicking would need to wear a helmet when the roof came down.

I do know that some of the people on the site rock, and you are definitely one of them.

LOL, i see it!!!! cool! very observant!

XD

P.S. ~Me,

The disability movement uses that slogan - it is burned into our brains. Here are some various places who use that phrase and it already IS a tee-shirt. :-)

http://www.alaskachd.o..._graphics/pflogo.gif
http://www.health.stat...sdoh/promo/title.gif
http://www.open.org/~people1/

OK, I know what I want to say here, but (unfortunately for those who hate to read through these things) it's going to take me a while to figure out how to say this just right. Give me a couple of days to respond to this, because I know what you are asking, but it will take a while to put in the right words without consuming all of Motts' bandwidth, so I'll work on editing it down to less than a billion words. ;-)

Only my own.

Cyclopses aren't known for intelligence.

good lord people, they are NOT ghosts! they are spirits. but its a beautiful shot in a beautiful landscape.on other sites ive seen floating orbs hangin around too...deffinately creepy-cool.

And voices? ; - )

I love it. Very natural, left behind feeling which makes the image blossom with the different types of greens.

Vackra bilder, i svart-vitt blir det mer konst! I love it! It's really art!

Dean, that figures, and I guess it's a good thing for preservationists, because a ship of that size would burn very spectacularly if some teenage arsonist managed to gain entry, or sink very expensively if someone opened the seacocks 'for a laugh'.

It's so sad to see so many of these old liners in such bad shape. They were after all the height of luxury and technology when new and are still probably the biggest moving objects ever built by humans. As with so much, we should show them more respect.

Only the Queen Mary's story seems to have had a happy ending, as the Norway (formerly the France, herself the replacement for the famed Normandie) has just been decommissioned as uneconomic.

It's amazing how people fuss over the Titanic, which lies in bits at the bottom of the North Altlantic, and talk every so often of raising her, when these ships are still living and could have a future if anyone cared enough.

Even if nothing else can be found to do with these liners than turn them into floating hotels or universities, surely that's a better fate than ending up as Coke cans or Toyotas...

This picture is my absolute favorit in this galleri. Its sad to this former Pround ships who ones sailed the sea, and now has been dumped, to die alone.

Me too Ed, they're one of the most compelling things about this site, up there with the shots themselves. But Lynne, surely this must freak even you out a little bit? Knowing what we do about what went on at Pennhurst?! I don't think most people here are saying that all institutions are, or even were, hideous places full of terror and abuse, or even that all of Pennhurst was like that, but the shots of this room are very unnerving.

I don't pity the 'children' that lived here for their disabilities, as I said I know a couple of people who are developmentally 'challenged' in some way or another and I certainly don't feel sorry for them, nor would they want people to do so. But I do pity the Pennhurst clients for the way many of them were treated, whether that took the form of deliberate abuse by a tiny minority of the staff or the more widespread neglect that saw residents tied to their beds, attacked by other patients or simply so regressed that they were unable to walk or talk because they'd never been given the opportunity to do so.

Of course even with testimonies from ex-patients, and footage of the place in use, Pennhurst was so massive and affected so many people over nearly eight decades that we'll probably never know the full story behind it. These murals could well have been painted by some of the residents themselves. And it's odd to think how if that were confirmed to be the case, I think most would agree that this room would lose many of its unpleasant connotations...

Well Lynne, you certainly made me think and reconsider some of my views... so the wall isn't the only thing to benefit from your 'rants' :-)

i can not comment any more on this photo or Mr. Motts would have to but x- rated warnings on his disclaimer.