142 Comments Posted by Lyric

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Dunno Lynne m'dear you must be getting confused.

I wonder if by letting it out that the deceased are moved around in the unseen places in the hospitals and that they are taken to the Morgue in the freight elevator will wind up being construed as abuse of the dead?

Maybe I'm the morbid one here.
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[thump thump]

Tunnels in these buildings were indeed for transporting patients as well as the dead. Food, supplies.. heat etc.

The whole abuse thing is just too blown out of proportion.
The biggest thing that you would transport a patient for, would be to respectfully move the deceased.

Many of the living cannot deal with death, and do not deal with well. Even in whole capacity, let alone diminished capacity, which is why even in modern hospitals the dead are transported in seperate elevators, and when possible down hallways less used, that do not adjoin patient rooms.

Tunnels with no windows were also utilized as shelter durning Tornados and other disasters. To dimish flying debris such as broken glass.
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When you consider that in the United States one person dies every 12 seconds. I have a feeling that shots like these won't go away.

Without arguing. I would have to disagree. I do think however to see a Morgue shot, with as much equipement in them as what has been captured here will be more and more rare.
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That's a traction bed. A very OLD traction bed.
Traction was used in patients with oseteopathic injuries. Bone fractures for use lay people.
Traction is applied to help straighten long bone injuries. (Femur, Humerous)
Traction is also used in the spinal injuries.
Before we really learned that many spinal injuries were paralyzing and that there was no (and is no) real way to reverse the damage. Patients were put in traction, to help realign the spine. Mostly to help keep the discs between the bones from calcifying, or deteriorating to the point where bone would rub on bone causing the patient more pain.

For many spinal cord patients. Traction was and still is torturous. You cannot move ANYTHING. There is no turning your head, moving your wrists..nada.
A very real idea of a traction patient is believe it or not.. In a movie. Born of the 4th of July has a scene in which Tom Cruise was in a VA hospital in traction..

While much of the other goings on around it were a bit fantastical. No nurses coming to help clean up vomit. No nurses coming in to care for the patient.
(Yes.. things like that did and do happen) but not because these nurses are being cruel or intentionally mean.
What people don't realize is that nurses, like other medical care workers have to put priorities on things. Sadly, cleaning up vomit is at the bottom of the list if you have a patient not breathing. Sorry.

Since the use of this particular kind of traction table (or bed) we have learned leaps and bounds on matters of long bone and spinal cord injuries.
Unfortunately, it did have to come at the expense of comfort of some people.

Remember.. Medicine is a Practice. It is not an absolute.
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Thanks Kate!

People fail to realize that the dead, whether from disease, old age or whatever, become tools that the living learn from.

We would have never learned the treatments for polio, TB, cancer, diabetes and mental illness (there are more but I won't list them all) if it weren't for the fact that people died.

The dead speak. They just have to be around the right people to hear them.
I don't mean ghosts either.
Ask any ME, and they will tell you all about what they have learned from those who are no longer living.
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Considering the age of the building since it closed. It is highly unlikely that it is blood.
Blood like many other biological substances decomposes and won't leave bright, brilliant red stains.
It eventually will turn into dust or nothing at all.
Even if it was blood at one time, it would take a lot of different chemical testing on the substance, to determine wether or not it was a blood stain at one time.

Rust on the other hand, leaves a stain that does continue to show it's color after long periods of time.
What you are probably thinking is blood is probably just rust.
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That's when Yaggy bit Motts and turned him into a Zombie too!
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Yep. That's Yaggy, our pet Zombie. Some how and I am not quite sure how he does it.. Must be Zombie Voodoo Magic. But he lives in all the different sites tht you see pictures of.
It's only just recently that he has let anyone take a snappy of him because we were having to feed him the blood of virgins to restore his handsome good looks.
Needless to say, that took us a while, as there aren't many virgins anymore.

But no, he's not just a spirit he's been reanimated to accompany Mr. Motts everywhere for protection from all the other ghosts that live in these buildings.
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It does look like an Aspirator(suction unit) and given that this was a TB facility. It makes sense to have one.
Even today it is still the most effective way to clean out the lungs and general airway.
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*reaches up from beneath her Mistress' desk to touch the soapbox on the screen* Oooohhhhh...
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Yes, Mistress Serrena.
I'm very sorry.
I will be right over to play footstool for the rest of the evening.
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*Puuurrrrrrsssss*

But I like my manacles and the cage she makes me sleep in is wonderful.
Unless I am really good and eat all my dinner broken glass and all. I get to sleep on a sheet at the foot of the bed.
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The Book-Cadillac was a glorious hotel in its hey day!
The saddest part about that, if I remember my hometown street geography that is.. Is that the B-C was in a part of town that could have been restored and utilized rather than building a brand new eyesore near the "new" Comerica Park.

The one that is almost too far out of the "city" is the old Train Station. That building has been a favorite of mine since childhood.

*note to self* Next trip home, go to Tiger Stadium on Mich/Trumble
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I believe there is a provision in most state laws regarding unmarked or older graves. That either the bodies are to be respectfully moved.
Or
In the cases here in California, they cannot develop on the land.
Up here in 'gold rush country" If a grave is found it has to be marked fenced off and I believe that there has to be a certain amount of distance between the fence surrounding the grave and where any development can begin.
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Givin the age of the building it is highly likely that these were hand laid. Especially in the places where it has to go around something like the knewel posts.
In the straight aways it could be rolls of tile that are on sheets and you grout in once you finish our inital layer of cementing.

As it's been pointed out by our resident craftsmen. Many of these buildings were handcrafted and a lot of pride went into the construction of the buildings.

Keeping it clean was and always is a part of maintainance that goes unnoticed.