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Father Richard McCormack was convicted of sex abuse? Is this true? Does anyone know anything about this? I have good reason for asking. He was the Director of the Seminary when I was a student there in there in the mid to late 1970's. Please email me at jonavsr@hotmail.com if you have any information on this. Please use "Father McCormack" in the subject line.

And hey Father Marrow I think I remember you...Brother Mike at time. I was there in 1975 - was my first year helping with summer camp too.

Now, WHO did this and why? We will never know; put all those little sinks upside-down together: it is just strange. As strange as everything else.

It is, yes, it is absolutely amazing! Thought it was a mirror at first.....
and the bleak colors and the light. It is perfect. And if it stretches the same way behind you...well.............you are a fine photographer, Mr. M.

Sorry. I meant to say in my fifth paragraph that It is so odd how the staff who haven't themselves had mental illness and don't know how it is experienced or how we experience their "treatment" usually have such a radically different interpretation of the treatment. often it is seen as benign and helpful for the person even when they and their behavior says otherwise. It is true that for everyone who is terrified or just creeped out by seclusion rooms there are people who like to go in there and throw balls around or shred paper and get emotion out. People who experience forced treatment in seclusion rooms become afraid of it.
I think a empathetic and non-defensive discussion of how there behavior impacts the people they are treating would cause them pain and challenge their Identity. If you listened you could learn.

The first time i was in a hospital I was confused as to the rules of the hospital especially because I was psychotic. I went in my bedroom and refused to leave my bed. I wanted peace and quiet.

there was an all male call and six or eight guys came. they put my arms and legs behind my back and that was very painful and I screamed and kicked to escape, and they carried me to the seclusion room. they dumped me on the mat and ran out. I was so confused about what had happened and so terrified. No one told me why I was there. I banged on the door screaming to be let out. what dme said about having a place where a patient can scream and bang to safely let out those emotions sounds like she misunderstands how it is experienced by others. the walls were closing in and i was terrified and confused as to where i was and why it was happening. I did not know who the crowd of men were who painfully dragged me kicking and screaming into the room. I was not experiencing this emotions when i went to my bedroom to be alone.

Later I started doing back springs on the gym mat and I think they thought i might get hurt. They rushed back in and tore my clothes off while I was fighting and screaming and trying to escape. They put me in four point restraints with my privates facing the window in the door where everyone could see me.

It is so odd how the staff who haven't themselves had mental illness and know how it is experienced and how we experience there "treatment" usually have such a radically different interpretation of the treatment that it is benign and helpful for the person even when they and their behavior says otherwise. It is true that for everyone who is terrified or just creeped out by seclusion rooms there are people who like to go in there and throw balls around or shred paper and get emotion out. People who experience forced treatment in seclusion rooms become afraid of it.

I think the treatment of those who were abused in the rooms should be realized and acknowledged. we are still living today. Our experiences should be honored and not swept under the rug and dismissed b/c they didn't know any better. It felt like kidnapping and it felt like rape. I want an apology. I wish Dme was still around because thou sometimes I think she is off base usually she sees beyond just her experience and just might understand what I wrote. I got ptsd from many similar experiences like that. the only time i ever laid a finger on a mental health worker was when they laid a forceful hurtful hand on me. the many treatments that came from staff who were usually kind (although i never ran into any of the saints mentioned on this website) made me worse. I did experience other kinds of abuse like threats and touching, but by far the worse was the state sanctioned abuse I experienced in my twenties. That is less than nineteen years ago and it still happens.

This place is awesome and if you thought it was a tough entry back then now it's almost impossible so you are lucky to have made it, great set and I love your site.

Ahhh, yes, it is a normal window, see now!

Is it mirrored glass?
Awesome thread; so long, and very interesting shot, indeed.
All these things we don´t know.
May you always be well, and thank you for pictures and site.

wow Jimmy, I'm impressed! I thought it might have been a plant tray where the ivy was growing and was just left. The Ivy escaped it's tray, and is holding on for dear life.

grrrr. parsonage.

oooo! I have the perfect place for that in my house. It used to be the parsanage to the church next door. 125 years old. A little fresh stained glass in there and voila! A wonderful piece.

great shot, motts.

thanks for the trip, Motts. Great Job, as always.

MMMWAH! until next time.

Ah gulliver, I agree! Not just an arcade, but a VAULTED arcade. Absolutely lovely.

Hi Mama, great question I'll try to answer. Arcades were built to keep the monks/nuns out of the rain and snow on their way to the chapel for prayers. Matines (mah-teens) were at midnight and vespers at 4AM or near to dawn. We who visit here all love architecture! I highly reccommend "The Pillars of the Earth" by Ken Follet. A wonderful epic novel on 10th and 11th century cathedral building in England. The research is impeccable, the detail is rich and I learned so much. I've read it a dozen times and still it's my favorite book of all time. Starz made it into a miniseries and did do a great job, but you can't beat the book for detail and information. Hope this helps.

dis is a nice cell wish i had one when i went in