1 Comments Posted by Huh?

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This argument is ridiculous. In response to all those moralizing about the legality or morality of taking stuff from these places: Anyone who visits these places has already broken the law and is by definition a trespasser. The people responsible for these institutions now, in most cases either state governments, or developers, are concerned primarily, if not exclusively, with protecting themselves from liability when idiots lose a finger in the suction machine, or from someone burning the place down. Taking trinkets from most of these places while not agreeable, particularly if you consider yourself an "urban explorer" is not graverobbing, and most of the contents of these buildings (for example abandonded state property that has already been cleared out) while emotionally significant to some, will be destroyed in the relatively near future anyways. In my opinion, while it would be preferable for these places to remain undisturbed, calling out people like phanton for being a thief is ridiculous when everyone who visits these places are at least his equal in breaking the law, and in all likelyhood, it is the mere visitation of these places that places the current caretakers under stress and requires police or private protection - they are there to keep people out in the first place, not simply to make sure someone doesn't run off with moldy office supplies.