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Why, why didn't I listen to the voice in my head that said "This is a bad idea"? Didn't I learn my lesson from the Sitz Bath incident here: http://www.opacity.us/image2939.htm ?

I need booze, some mind bleach, anything! I have no problem with people who are overweight, but damn if your stomach touches your knees you MIGHT have a medical issue! ~shuddershuddershudder~
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See how bright it is compared to the interiors of some of the other buildings? That's how good those tiles work. Motts, were the windows not boarded up?
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Looks to me like the inside of just about every school I've seen. Not necessarily cold, more like utilitarian. Those tiles actually work great for brightening up a room, you just can't tell it in a B&W photo...
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It's blood, blood, OMG it's blood!!! :D J/K Lynne...

To set the record straight, rust does run like this if it gets mixed in with water. Use your brain for a second: why would it possibly be blood? Let's assume the staff abused a patient here. Why would they leave proof? Unless it was the very last day this building was used, it would have been washed off. In addition, if it was blood, you wouldn't be able to still see it. by now it would have seperated into its components and decomposed. In other words, blood this old wouldn't be visible...
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BTW, are they so low because they were for children? I just realized (or paid attention to) the fact that this was a school/hospital, so there were probably youngsters around... Were there seperate facilities (bathrooms, showers/baths, etc) for the adults?
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Again, I think it's important to remember that these weren't mixed sex bathrooms. This was the girl's bathroom, and they were all that was in here. If I had to go in front of other people, I'd rather it was like this than being a mixed sex bathroom...
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See, now there's the one in 100 that DOESN'T slap me (not ~Me, me) when I say get naked...
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Naked, Someone said get naked?!?

Whooooooooohoooooooo!
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Lynne - So THAT'S what I've been doing wrong! Everytime I ask to see someone naked I get slapped (ok, ALMOST every time) All I need to do is become an MD? That couldn't take more than a few months, right? :D

I just wanna throw a reminder in here that these weren't exactly mixed sex showers/tubs. It's not like there were male patients wandering around looking in on the female patients, and vice versa. From what I can tell, even most of the staff were the same sex as their wards, ie males with males, females with females. Of course there were exceptions, but then again in the medical profession a naked body is a naked body. You see so many that you don't even think about it anymore...
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I am a piece of crap...for I ain't changing me name for nobody not even you dear Lynne, Sorry.
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Ack! I didn't mean that ~Me was a piece of crap, just ME! Damn you, ~Me, you sure make all this corn-fusing! 8`-)

Anyways, Sketch, thankee kindly. Yes, I do get in trouble for bending the rules on a very regular basis. There is a major irony in bureaucracies doing "people" work. There is a way to run a large organization and there is a way to run a "people" organization, and they do not target the same goals. To be a "people person" in a bureaucracy means you have to fight every day, but it's a good fight and an honest fight - it's a fight to get the needed resources to the people who truly need them and to fix the bureaucracy to work for the same goals. You do that and you're a winner all around.

In my humble piece of crap opinion. :-)
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Hey now, ~Me isn't a piece of crap and you aren't either! :D

The problem is perception. If 9 out of 10 nurses are caring, loving, and give their all to their patients, but 1 is bad, you will remember that 1, not those 9. In reality 9 out of 10 is being conservative. I would bet that maybe 1 or 2 out of 500 are really bad people, but those are the only ones you hear about. Every nurse I've met (and I've been crazy my whole life, so I bet I've met more than you) has truly cared, and given their all to help their patients. These aren't people who go off to work for their 8 hours, then go home and forget all about work for the night. These are people who really give a shit about their work. They do their hardest to help people who really don't want help, and are willing to fight back for no reason. Can you even imagine what that's like?

Oh, and these "poor innocent people" who are locked up against their wills? Chances are, if they are in their, it is for their own good. Sometimes people can't be trusted to make good decisions for themselves, so someone else has to step in. Would you leave a deaf person in a room with a fire alarm that didn't flash as well as make noise? Some of these people would hurt or kill themselves, either intentionally or accidentally, if they were left on their own.

I guess it just comes down to living in the present, which too few people are willing to do. Were there abuses in the past? Sure, there were probably a lot. But those days are over. Now we are smart enough to watch and prevent abuse, and to keep those people who would be abusive away from people who would easily be taken advantage of.

And as for sticking to the book, I would be willing to bet that Lynne bends or breaks the rules if the rules interfere with her ability to treat a patient. Again, not to abuse the patient, to help the patient, because she cares about them.

Sorry for thread-jacking, but I can't stand people who are too stupid to see what is right in front of their faces. To make up for it: Motts, this is magnificent. As you can tell, it definitely provokes an emotional response, which is the point of all good art.
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That's me - just a piece of crap! :-) Thank you, soul of a serpent - you are aptly self-named.

Hey - I have a funny thought. Maybe I should work in one of these places to see what it's like. Maybe I'll have a more realistic expectation of what's out there. Maybe I'll learn some pity. Maybe I'll learn to feel sorry for everybody. Maybe I'll learn what's it's like to spend time in a hell hole like this where all these poor, pathetic unloved people just need someone to come and give them a big warm hug, where staff treat them badly and steal their little fuzzy dogs and stuffed bears and then when they throw these people out, they leave their cherished toys behind - just one last cruelty as they spit on those who leave.

Sounds better than the truth - and there's lots more to wallow in. And now there's someone to feel superior to - those cruel staff and the cruel institutions. While folks sit in their nice houses and petition against "those people" moving into their neighborhood and vote against increased taxes so "those people" can have staff who are paid more than a mere pittance and so "those people" can have a better life. Easier to poke at the people who took care of them and kept them alive than to do it yourself.

I am positive you are one of the people who took all the special ed kids under your wings when you were in school and made sure no one ever made fun of them. I am sure you are out there now donating your time and energy to making their lives better, rather than just sitting in front of your computer and feeling superior to those of us who actually do this work. I think you may be looking at the wrong side of the keyboard when you use the term "sterile".
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Thanks, ~Me, that's what I thought.
it looks evil && cold.. yeaaaaa yeeaaaaa yeeeaaaaa,,, woo hoo woo hoo woo hoo!!! <3