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We've missed you!
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We have to deal with name-calling monsters like this all the time. They do tend to get on your nerves occasionally, but only because they don't know what they are talking about. I admit, I don't mind a true debate, but this person is at the "nanny-nanny-boo-boo" level and doesn't have any information to back him/her up.
Believe me, we're used to it - over the years Marcia, Big Ed, and I have been called a lot worse names by a much higher class of people for working in this field. ;-)
Navi,
Tee hee! :-)
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We've done more than read the information. That's the point. People are working off a few small pieces of information and want to believe that's all that ever happened. And they want us to believe that things will get better when so many people are so short-sighted and small-minded as to ignore the larger picture and everything that happened, not just look at the bad parts.
Why does history get repeated? It's because no one seems to want to learn from it - from ALL of it, not just the parts that people choose to pay attention to. The difference between some of us and others of us is that some of us want to see the entire scope of what happened because we think that is how we can make things better. If you want to look at the bad engine that caused a car wreck, that's great. But if you miss the fact that the entire design was faulty, that the factory itself was faulty, it won't save any more lives by just fixing the engine, because there are more problems than that.
Why don't you two stop looking at the engine and look at the factory that built the machines? Are people afraid to admit that this was a societal problem and stop poking at the people who were stuck in a broken system? It's a lot harder to point a finger at the larger system - no easy scapegoat. And some people need a scapegoat to sleep at night. Salves their guilty consciences so they don't have to see that ALL of us were the problem - the entire society.
parent, if you weren't out there helping out at Pennhurst then you are a hypocrite of the worst sort - the one that likes to blame others and doesn't help out. However, at the same time by writing in over and over again and missing the main point, in a small way you have done a service. You have shown us where the problems still are in the system - that people still want to blame past problems on individuals and not the lousy system and the people who didn't take care of the system - the voters. And for that, I thank you. You have done a great service to people who read this by showing them what happens when people are unable or unwilling to grasp the larger picture. You get to make it happen all over again.
Yeah, blame it on the engine.
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I think thee doth need a spellcheck function and a way to deal with your overuse of the Caps Lock key.
Tiffy, please don't bother your head with arguments and debate. If you can't understand what this is about, don't let it bother your sleep. Some people need to see things wrapped up neatly in black and white. Some people want happy endings all the time. Too bad life isn't like that. Ironically, that's what the real debate is here - not if someone is right or wrong, but the manner in which people view, analyze, and interpret information, how much information they choose to look at, and what conclusions they reach from what they are willing to look at.
Marcia, some people enjoy not getting it, don'tcha think? 'Specially those who have never done anything about it 'cept bitch and whine. They do tire me after a while, but after 35+ years I am used to the high-pitched whine of their ceaseless droning. I think they pity themselves more than they pity anyone who was ever in a bad situation, since they don't know what they are talking about and fiercely refuse to learn.
Oh well. :-)
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This site is watched by a lot of people who are in law enforcement. This website was developed and is maintained by someone who is an urban explorer and photographer, not someone who believes in relieving people of possibly unwanted possessions. A true urban explorer has a motto - "Take only pictures - leave only footprints." What you are suggesting - theft - is the reason why so many places are heavily patrolled and make it such that fewer and fewer photos can be taken. You are actively encouraging theft. Theft = the taking of property which does not, by law, belong to you. When people come on to this site and discuss how they are going to steal from these sites, for some funny reason it makes the people who own and guard these places a bit more likely to step up the security and make it more difficult for the rest of us to get to see these places. Why don't you go to a site where they actively encourage people to steal items, spray paint graffiti, and set fires? That is not what this site is about. Since you have been so hell-bent on stealing items from this place you probably haven't read what the majority of people have said when commenting on all the other pix. Most of them have said that they don't think that stealing is right. It's one of those funny Judeo-Christian morals that a lot of us have been raised on and that our society is based on, as old-fashioned as that appears to seem to you.
I personally don't care if you take anything at all from this crappy, nasty place. It is not a place that draws me at all, and I can find a number of ways of getting things I want in a more legitimate fashion. But by coming on this site and salivating over and over and discussing your proclivity toward theft, you make it more difficult for the rest of us to go to these places or even to see pix of these places.
That is my beef with you. I don't care that you have the morals of a young child, but your constant quest for other peoples' property does make for a bit of an increased risk for people who actually enjoy exploring and photographing these sorts of places.
You come on this site every few months trying to get people to agree with you that it is all right to steal from someone you don't know if you think they are an idiot and if they have items that you want but they don't care for and may destroy. I agree that it is a sad thing when some material item you want is going to be tossed when you would get great enjoyment out of it. But I think it is a bigger shame if people let their personal greed affect their morals. The loss of personal morals affects most of us a great deal more than the loss of some material items.
In my humble and certainly unasked for opinion. :-)
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OK, then - you're right, of course. All those of us who work(ed) in institutions ever do (did) was torture, maim, humiliate, cremate, abuse, and harass our innocent charges, none of whom would have ever had any issues or problems had they not been kidnapped and forced into slavery in our hell holes. Yeah, you found us out. Our bad. Oops! Busted!
Marcia - Ed - looks like this very clever, erudite person finally found out what we have really been doing all these years through his/her brilliant deductive logic that just leaves me squealing in the aisles with shame, misery, and guilt. Ouch! Ouch! Put away your sharp yet brilliant rhetoric! You found us out! Oh golly gosh, we are and were terrible people but you can tell us how it should have been done and how we can rectify our hideous mistakes of the past! I see that you alone hold the key, and the rest of us are and always were torturous dogs! No, that would be unfair to dogs to say that.
But of course you are right! We need to admit our horrible past first before we can move on. You got us there. Oh, ouch! Oh, this hurts! Touche! Touche!
Happy now? Probably not, I am guessing. You seem a lot happier when you are in a self-righteous snit. :-)
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That's exactly what many of us do. But if you can't see the good that went with the bad you are doomed to repeat history. If you throw the baby out with the bathwater you'll have a nice clean tub but no baby. :-)
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I see that - you are hardly able to control yourself NOW and you are presumably under fairly ideal conditions. :-)
P.S. I would advise a slightly larger circle of reading and references than that which you have limited yourself to. However, the danger there is that you might learn something you don't want to know - that is, that not all staff were killers and torturers, that not all situations were 100% terrible, that some people thrived even in rough situations, and that every now and then good things happened.
You would also have to realize that until you get off your hindquarters and get out there and push for increased taxes for mental health that this will happen over and over again while you are sitting there with your mouth agape and your finger pointing outward - you will then have to realize that "when you point a finger at someone else, 4 fingers are pointing back at you."
However, it's sure easier to poke at other people than to do something yourself, I've found. How can you fail when you never try? Leaves you right (and righteous) 100% of the time.
Come out with us and get your feet (and index finger that you wag at others so much) dirty and THEN tell us what it's like. Then you might have some credibility. Right now you come across merely as an armchair whiner. That's the best job in the world because you don't have to do anything but complain and protest. Maybe I should come join you. It would be a lot easier than actually doing something, that's for sure. :-)
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